tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post1036929313323833783..comments2022-10-30T02:14:16.890-07:00Comments on Chiya Pasal ko Ganthan (Chats at the tea shop): Tikapur RevisitedHoratiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03188844016125644659noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-74105026840888931302015-08-30T09:04:12.849-07:002015-08-30T09:04:12.849-07:00Well, as the saying goes, hope springs eternal in ...Well, as the saying goes, hope springs eternal in the human breast. Let's hope that we may not have to resort to a national beating of the breast. Remedial action, in any way each one of us can take, may be the best solution to prevent Armageddon.Horatiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03188844016125644659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-74089808634669674092015-08-30T03:40:42.808-07:002015-08-30T03:40:42.808-07:00That was a good read at a time when all of us are ...That was a good read at a time when all of us are either speechless, spluttering or ranting at the recent events at Tikapur in particular and the Terai in general.<br /><br />Our country has teetered at the brink many times but has managed to somehow make a come back.<br /><br />Lets hope that all will be well again soon.kiran thapahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10945355147737016856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-67520964874199992802015-08-29T17:18:37.877-07:002015-08-29T17:18:37.877-07:00Akash Bhairab, saw the post in FaceBook yesterday....Akash Bhairab, saw the post in FaceBook yesterday. Also have heard that the news is around 3 weeks old. So not sure how much credence to give to this news - which is indeed big time.Horatiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03188844016125644659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-37579581280648982562015-08-29T12:43:48.322-07:002015-08-29T12:43:48.322-07:00Glad that you've resumed your blog. Something ...Glad that you've resumed your blog. Something very deep but invisible is going on. Pro-Indian parties and politicians are apparently working against each other: this simply does not make sense except if the Indian strategy is to create a civil war-like situation and then, in the name of containing the spillover effect into India, to take control putting an end to the Loktantra experiment which the Modi government did not initiate. <br />Furthermore, if a civil war-like situation does develop BOTH India and China (who are, in my reading, against federalism in Nepal, China more visibly than India) COULD act jointly in the cause of restoring peace and tranquility in a region of declared strategic interest to both. <br />Don't forget that Beijing and New Delhi have recently - in their Lipu Lekh deal - advertised to the world that they share some vital areas of strategic convergence, even while Nepal's impotence to do anything about it has been made embarrassingly obvious to all. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-13849270278816287842015-08-28T21:58:36.575-07:002015-08-28T21:58:36.575-07:00This is big time. Is this really true?This is big time. Is this really true?Akash Bhairabnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-22845901249493156072015-08-28T21:06:18.415-07:002015-08-28T21:06:18.415-07:00Just read the news that the Army Chief has present...Just read the news that the Army Chief has presented the Speaker of the House officially with a statement that NA will not accept Loktantra. The die is cast; now cross the Rubicon!Horatiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03188844016125644659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-47696523154918457902015-08-28T16:30:32.053-07:002015-08-28T16:30:32.053-07:00Thank you, Anonymous, for providing an in-depth be...Thank you, Anonymous, for providing an in-depth behind-the-scene analysis of the Tikapur fiasco.Horatiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03188844016125644659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-17309745445286300352015-08-28T16:26:20.631-07:002015-08-28T16:26:20.631-07:001. The Home Minister ordered the Police to handl...1. The Home Minister ordered the Police to handle crowds without firepower. Only officers were permitted to carry their pistols for self- defense.<br />2. The Home Minister was elected also from the Tharu Constituency of Bardia and does not want to alienate the Tharus at all. <br />3. The day before the incident, the Tharu leaders assured the Adminstration and Police that they would not resort to violence at all.<br />4. The movement of the demonstrators tried to enter the declared prohibited area.<br />5. Ex- CA members, CA members and a female Tharu leader who were leading the mass admit that there were unknown miscreants in the masses who committed the acts of violence.<br />6. There were criminal gangs from the South who participated in the violent acts but the blame is on the ex-Maoist combatants.<br />7. The SSP got off from the APF vehicle to talk with the leaders of the mob. As he got off, a Sergeant was brutally struck. As he approached the sergeant, two miscreants pierced him with spears from behind and his pistol snatched. The SSP was severely injured as the AFP SP slyly withdrew from the spot without reacting.<br />8. Two other inspectors with pistols were struck simultaneously and disarmed. The armed element APF vanished extricating two Tharu leaders to safety as ordered by their APF DIG, a Tharu closely related to Bijaya Gachedar.<br />9. The DIG rushed the Tharu leaders to Nepalgunj for safety as ordered by the APF DIG.<br />10. The crowd lynched the injured policemen from the house where they were in hiding and killed them. It is learnt that the culprits were criminals from India who withdrew in Indian jeeps across the border.<br />11. The NP DIG was another unprofessional officer with forged certificates. The APF DIG was another useless person who was least bothered about professionalism and was only busy pleasing political leaders. However the SSP was a quiet, professional and confident officer who was very talented in crime investigation.<br />12. Now the Tharu folks who just participated in the demonstration have run away. This move has created the mistrust between the Tharu youths and the Police, and hidden the true picture of the actors and the sequence of actions that happened.<br />13. The Tharu leaders neither cooperate to disclose the facts nor accept the accountability factor.<br />14. The NA was taken out for deterrence only. The PM and the Cabinet were definite that if asked the Madhese President would neither permit the use of the NA nor would India advise positively.<br />15. The Gov cannot dare to prosecute Amaresh Singh, Upendra Yadav and Rajendra Mahato or ask questions sternly for inciting the Tharus.<br />16. The Indian game plan is to involve the Tharus in the movement to declare "One Madhes one Pradesh." Then next phase would be to activate the fate of Crimea gradually. Then Madhese leaders would be reduced to heads of Village Development Committees if ever victorious in the elections.<br />17. The irony is as the Indian PM criticized the Nepalese PM, his home state is facing riots that have inflicted human casualties too.<br />18. The NA has been made the crow in the fog by Girija and India feels it has been successful in neutralizing the institution effectively. It has become a sword for ONLY brandishing - not for use !!! <br />19. The NP, APF , the bureaucracy, the judiciary and the media are totally corrupt, ineffective and politicized shamelessly.<br />20. The unification of Nepal is facing a counter-motion to disintegrate the nation. The ethnic groups have been instigated too. Now how effective are the religiously and politically enlightened Bahuns to take care - we shall see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-85450539956222125012015-08-28T03:36:14.536-07:002015-08-28T03:36:14.536-07:00Subodh dai, unfortunately Gagan Thapa does not rep...Subodh dai, unfortunately Gagan Thapa does not represent the top leadership of our political elite. Am heartened by his sarcasm, but would be even more heartened if this sort of comment was coming from Sitaula, Oli, BRB, Prachanda or any of the taukeys from the Madhesh Forum.Horationoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-21045690578126378572015-08-27T21:27:00.391-07:002015-08-27T21:27:00.391-07:00I refer to a tweet from Gagan Thapa:
Gagan Thapa ...I refer to a tweet from Gagan Thapa:<br /><br />Gagan Thapa (@thapagk) tweeted at 8:26 am on Thu, Aug 27, 2015: @PM_Nepal Hon. PM,Wd u mind calling Shri Modi & advise him to handle Gujarat's riots calmly, not to deploy army & go for wider counsultation! <br /><br />Are our politicians finally coming around?Subodh Ranahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00961978685529060850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-37503937432347192952015-08-27T20:49:08.934-07:002015-08-27T20:49:08.934-07:00Thank you for the feedback. I hope others will giv...Thank you for the feedback. I hope others will give them too, otherwise the blog, which is to have discussions, has no meaning.Horatiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03188844016125644659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-84800753222181065702015-08-27T20:21:18.293-07:002015-08-27T20:21:18.293-07:00You have a very clear way of explaining what is a ...You have a very clear way of explaining what is a very complex political morass, both in terms of the murders and the constitutional crisis in Neoal. It is mystifying and just plain insanity to face a crowd armed with knives and other weapons with no recourse. The pictures speak volumes about just how uninformed the decision not to respond, even with tear gas, was. <br /><br />I lack the depth of understanding about the issues of federalism and the constitution which you express so well but your ideas have eminent merit. Stong local government is essential and would provide an excellent recourse for those who are not represented, far better tan federalism. Keep speaking out. Your voice needs to be heard. Kathryn Boyd Liftusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293872509981147958.post-62628279464829488262015-08-27T19:30:52.767-07:002015-08-27T19:30:52.767-07:00Apologies...the blog got posted without the ending...Apologies...the blog got posted without the ending, which should read "...ambitions which over vaulted themselves and fell limply on the the other side". Horatiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03188844016125644659noreply@blogger.com